Looking at a 5.56 bolt gun as I am in my 60s and have a really bad back. I have a question and it may be in bad taste, why is the 5.56 considered a small game round when tens of thousands of men have fallen to the round in war? I can no longer handle a lot of recoil and want a gun for deer and varmints (50 to 200 yards). Thanks
Pearl River Productionson January 27, 2023 at 4:39 am
You need to learn the anatomy of a deer. The shoulder blade is in the front of the shoulder on the deer not where you pointed. Heart shots are an excellent choice and as a bow Hunter there is more damage done shooting right above the elbow of a deer. You should look into the ranch fairy channel for shot placement on a deer or hog
I admit I didnt watch every second of your video, so I may have missed it. I dont know the rules in every state, but I do know that its usually illegal to hunt with ball (FMJ) ammo, at least in the several states that Ive hunted in. Just my two cents.
Why are so many people saying they only use for varmints, coyote or that size? They use them in war for craps sake! If the .223 can take down a 350# hog or deer, why do they say varmint rifle?
One of my biggest deer was with a 10.5in 5.56 quartering to me in the front shoulder and exit out behind the other at 80yrds with fort Scott 62gr TUI solid brass rounds they tumble upon impact and do some serious damage I was surprised at the wound channel and I use them for the exit wounds and penetration to get good blood trails I would never use a hollow point in 5.56 I’d rather a fmj. Edit forgot to mention the big 200lb 4 1/2yo 6pt only made it 40yrds before piling up
SKS with Bushnell scope. 7.62×39 Hornady SST. Took many large deer, bucks . Last one at 230 yards. Penetration was never an issue. You can have a 338 Lapua but if you shoot the leg it won’t help you. I don’t see why 5.56 won’t behave the same.
I use Hornady 55 grain v max for predator hunting and just used the same this hunting season for deer. I Shot 2 doe with headshot. And a front brisket shot blew the heart up. My son also used my 223 ruger American ranch he shot a doe at 125 yards she ran 40 yards before dying. Then I also shot a doe at 250 yards and she didn’t go 20. V max is the way to go. IMHO
.223 absolutely will drop a deer! I’ve shot both deer and men with 5.56. It WILL break big bones. It’s funny how the same guys that criticize or call .223/5.56 “unethical” are the same guys just FINE with bow hunting! Tracking or waiting many agonizing HOURS to recover a deer they shot!
It’s illegal to hunt with FMJ, in my state anyway. A 75-77 grain soft point is DEVASTATING. I had a bad experience this past season with my hillbilly neighbor’s loose dog jumping a deer I had sighted in! It jumped the instant I pulled the trigger and I hit it far back. After seriously debating shooting the damn dog, I watch the deer get up and start hobbling along 50-75 yards and laying down again. I debated waiting it out for a 6-8 hour gut shot but decided to creep up and see. Thankfully I decided to take the shot at 200-250 yds and a neck shot finished him. So glad I did! Cuz it was NOT gut shot, I hit the left hind quarter! When I butchered him, the bullet SHATTERED the femur! Broke and passed thru the PELVIS and still exited the right hind quarter! So nobody can say that a .223 doesn’t have the power to take large game!
The only thing immune to the 5.56 was methed out “Skinnies”! Also known as Somalis. They were so damn small and skinny the fast moving 5.56 zipped right thru. Aside from a central nervous system hit, it just ice picked em to death!
The case is capable of so much more than it accomplishes in it’s .224 guise. The most efficient wildcat I’ve seen to date is the 6.8 Badger, which is pushing 100gr at 2850fps from 20" barrels. With those pills you can take any shot you’d take with a .308-family cartridge.
I use 77gr match ammo and they absolutely work great. I have shot through the shoulder, strait on, neck and broadside. All have worked perfectly. In fact strait on shot exited and took out 4 ribs with it. In all the vitals shots the lungs where turned to jelly. 223 is my preferred deer hunting round. There’s something enjoyable about taking deer with a round that just seems so perfectly efficient for the task.
Never hunting with a .556 but .223 is amazing within like 100 yards for deer I shot my first deer with a .223 and it dropped instantly and I’ve shot a deer with a 30-06 at maybe 150 yards and I never saw the deer again lots of blood but never found it
People that say 223/556 isn’t effective for hunting don’t understand ballistics. I wouldn’t ever recommend using FMJ. I think you should have gone into more info on the soft point. The soft point you picked behaved that way, but what any something like a barnes or Hornady cx monolithic bullet? Deeper penetration, later expansion, but and massive weight retention. You don’t even need a mono bullet to do that though. Hornadys American whitetail has a jacket and interlock designed to have a similar effect. The moral of the story that bullets have gotten high tech and impressive so you gotta do some research and pick the right tool for the job.
Ballistic testing on 223 and 5.56 ammo for large game hunting.
Think effective distance would increase with heavier bullets and a tighter twist (e.g. 1:7)?
60 gr Nosler Partitions, I handload them but there is factory loaded ammo.
The 70gr TSX in 5.56 changes everything.
Inside 100 yards deadly for me !
What happened to sound?
.223 been taking out deer for decades. You don’t need a cannon for deer unless you ain’t got nothing else to do.
Just curious: how long has your family been in the States? You have a Civil War era face. That’s not meant to be an insult. Great video, btw!
Got a question to ask? , What length handguard is that on ur ar 15 ?
Looking at a 5.56 bolt gun as I am in my 60s and have a really bad back. I have a question and it may be in bad taste, why is the 5.56 considered a small game round when tens of thousands of men have fallen to the round in war? I can no longer handle a lot of recoil and want a gun for deer and varmints (50 to 200 yards). Thanks
I like that ar did u paint it
BARNES VOR-TX 223 REM 55 GR TSX 100 yards lights out
Love my fusion 62 grn outta my 16in.
Who ever says a 55 grain 5.56 doesn’t cut it is a moron.
AR-15 5.56 carbine with 1/7 barrel twist on 16in barrel what ammo would you recommend to hunt deer with? 100-150 yd range maybe less
You need to learn the anatomy of a deer. The shoulder blade is in the front of the shoulder on the deer not where you pointed. Heart shots are an excellent choice and as a bow Hunter there is more damage done shooting right above the elbow of a deer. You should look into the ranch fairy channel for shot placement on a deer or hog
I admit I didnt watch every second of your video, so I may have missed it. I dont know the rules in every state, but I do know that its usually illegal to hunt with ball (FMJ) ammo, at least in the several states that Ive hunted in. Just my two cents.
Buddy thank you for your video keep it up
Ham boots!!!
I may have missed it, what range did you shoot the hams at?
Why are so many people saying they only use for varmints, coyote or that size? They use them in war for craps sake! If the .223 can take down a 350# hog or deer, why do they say varmint rifle?
What soft point are you using? Manufacturer, bullet type, weight?
Does your wife know you shot her hams ?
556 70 grain Barnes tsx 💪🏼💪🏼
I know you still made yourself a ham sandwich after the video didn’t you? I know I would. lol
Some of us a forced to buy cheaper options.How about a gel test on the Armscor .223 62gr sps round?Thanks in advance.
I’m a Michigan man myself. your content is great!!!
One of my biggest deer was with a 10.5in 5.56 quartering to me in the front shoulder and exit out behind the other at 80yrds with fort Scott 62gr TUI solid brass rounds they tumble upon impact and do some serious damage I was surprised at the wound channel and I use them for the exit wounds and penetration to get good blood trails I would never use a hollow point in 5.56 I’d rather a fmj. Edit forgot to mention the big 200lb 4 1/2yo 6pt only made it 40yrds before piling up
They make better calibers for the purpose.
Pretty good video except i take deer at 250 to 300 yrds easy.more often than not they never move.
SKS with Bushnell scope. 7.62×39 Hornady SST. Took many large deer, bucks . Last one at 230 yards. Penetration was never an issue. You can have a 338 Lapua but if you shoot the leg it won’t help you. I don’t see why 5.56 won’t behave the same.
What’s your opinion on 223 vs 243 on coyotes, whitetail and hogs?
I use Hornady 55 grain v max for predator hunting and just used the same this hunting season for deer. I Shot 2 doe with headshot. And a front brisket shot blew the heart up. My son also used my 223 ruger American ranch he shot a doe at 125 yards she ran 40 yards before dying. Then I also shot a doe at 250 yards and she didn’t go 20. V max is the way to go. IMHO
I took an 8 point this last season with .223 soft point. At around 90 yards, it didnt drop it but it did enough internal damage as it ran.
.223 absolutely will drop a deer! I’ve shot both deer and men with 5.56. It WILL break big bones. It’s funny how the same guys that criticize or call .223/5.56 “unethical” are the same guys just FINE with bow hunting! Tracking or waiting many agonizing HOURS to recover a deer they shot!
It’s illegal to hunt with FMJ, in my state anyway. A 75-77 grain soft point is DEVASTATING. I had a bad experience this past season with my hillbilly neighbor’s loose dog jumping a deer I had sighted in! It jumped the instant I pulled the trigger and I hit it far back. After seriously debating shooting the damn dog, I watch the deer get up and start hobbling along 50-75 yards and laying down again. I debated waiting it out for a 6-8 hour gut shot but decided to creep up and see. Thankfully I decided to take the shot at 200-250 yds and a neck shot finished him. So glad I did! Cuz it was NOT gut shot, I hit the left hind quarter! When I butchered him, the bullet SHATTERED the femur! Broke and passed thru the PELVIS and still exited the right hind quarter! So nobody can say that a .223 doesn’t have the power to take large game!
The only thing immune to the 5.56 was methed out “Skinnies”! Also known as Somalis. They were so damn small and skinny the fast moving 5.56 zipped right thru. Aside from a central nervous system hit, it just ice picked em to death!
It like to see this at 100 yards
The case is capable of so much more than it accomplishes in it’s .224 guise. The most efficient wildcat I’ve seen to date is the 6.8 Badger, which is pushing 100gr at 2850fps from 20" barrels. With those pills you can take any shot you’d take with a .308-family cartridge.
Anyone else thinking about a hot ham n cheese sandwich? Hahaha
If 223 is more powerful then pistols then why is it worst for a bear?
you dropped your pipe
223 vs 22/250. What would you choice be
best shot is a headshot – period
I use 77gr match ammo and they absolutely work great. I have shot through the shoulder, strait on, neck and broadside. All have worked perfectly. In fact strait on shot exited and took out 4 ribs with it. In all the vitals shots the lungs where turned to jelly. 223 is my preferred deer hunting round. There’s something enjoyable about taking deer with a round that just seems so perfectly efficient for the task.
Homie must got some damn food stamps the way he just buys hams to shoot smh
Fun fact: in germany its prohibited for every game larger than roe deer. for the rest you need at least 6,5mm diameter plus E100 2000J.
It has worked for many years. 243 as well. But it will have its limits.
Awesome video getting into the 556 from Indiana newbie
I’ve hunted deer with a .223 for 15+ years. Every doe I shoot has been a head shot, I’ve had no issues making heart shots with good Bonded bullets.
As far as hogs, I use a .22 mag most of the time, it’s all shot placement.
Best Video Ever ! Thanks 🙂
Never hunting with a .556 but .223 is amazing within like 100 yards for deer I shot my first deer with a .223 and it dropped instantly and I’ve shot a deer with a 30-06 at maybe 150 yards and I never saw the deer again lots of blood but never found it
Great video! Thanks for posting.
People that say 223/556 isn’t effective for hunting don’t understand ballistics. I wouldn’t ever recommend using FMJ. I think you should have gone into more info on the soft point. The soft point you picked behaved that way, but what any something like a barnes or Hornady cx monolithic bullet? Deeper penetration, later expansion, but and massive weight retention. You don’t even need a mono bullet to do that though. Hornadys American whitetail has a jacket and interlock designed to have a similar effect. The moral of the story that bullets have gotten high tech and impressive so you gotta do some research and pick the right tool for the job.